Direct Democracy Ireland

The following is an exchange of views on the Direct Democracy Ireland website. I almost joined this lot thinking that they were realists and that they might have a place in Irish politics.

The following DDI positions are pure quackery and pseudo science. ALL scientific, medical and dental bodies in the world support Water Fluoridation. Fracking will supply cheap gas that will mean less CO2 liberated into the atmosphere. There is NO scientific evidence that GMOs are the slightest bit dangerous to human health. No GMOs No Fracking […]

Very few countries around the world mandate fluoride. Most are of the old British empire. All of Europe has banned it for health concerns
Fracking is destroying large swathes of land and has been proven to cause earth tremors and has poisoned multiple ground water tables
GMOs have been proven to cause multiple health problems in humans and animals including sterility in herds, poor nutrition and damgae to body function and die off in species caused by the effect of the organisms producing their own chemicals to protect from pests, fungus and other naturally occurring enemies.
Please look into it further and stretch your research beyond what we are told by the sponsored media.

Very few countries around the world mandate fluoride. Most are of the old British empire. All of Europe has banned it for health concerns Fracking is destroying large swathes of land and has been proven to cause earth tremors and has poisoned multiple ground water tables GMOs have been proven to cause multiple health problems […]

Many countries DO Fluoridate, the US about half, Brazil, Australia, NZ etc.. Many countries don’t because they don’t drink the tap water. Countries like France drink 10 times as much bottled water as we do. I was in Spain recently and the salt we bought was Fluoridated because of this. I repeat, NO, NONE, NOT ONE, medical, dental or scientific organisation opposes Water Fluoridation. Therefore anti-Fluoridation is Scientific Quackery. It’s that simple.

Fracking doesn’t destroy anything any more than any factory. That exaggerated statement of yours is nonsense. It has NOT “poisoned” ground water.That;’s a ridiculous exaggeration. Earth Tremors? Laughable. The few tremors caused are no greater than a truck passing by. Damming water for Hydro has similar effects as does even drilling for water.

As far as I know NO scientific body believes GMOs have EVER been proven to harm humans. EVER.

I’m basing my position on Science and not not the media. You’re basing you position on QUACKERY. These issues do not need to be part of your policies. By having them you will never gain widespread approval by anyone but the lunatic fringe.

What is Direct Democracy Ireland? Direct Democracy Ireland is a new political service whose aim is to restore the provisions of direct democracy to the people of Ireland, and by doing so: To provide the people of Ireland an alternative to the current model of governance which will ensure that election promises are kept and […]

 

The following DDI positions are pure quackery and pseudo science. ALL scientific, medical and dental bodies in the world support Water Fluoridation. Fracking will supply cheap gas that will mean less CO2 liberated into the atmosphere. There is NO scientific evidence that GMOs are the slightest bit dangerous to human health.

No GMOs
No Fracking
No Flouride

Many countries DO Fluoridate, the US about half, Brazil, Australia, NZ etc.. Many countries don’t because they don’t drink the tap water. Countries like France drink 10 times as much bottled water as we do. I was in Spain recently and the salt we bought was Fluoridated because of this. I repeat, NO, NONE, NOT […]

PS Only one country in Europe ever banned Fluoride, Sweden, and that was on the back of a very philosophical argument. So when you say, “All of Europe has banned it for health concerns” you lie. Lying is not a good idea for a new party. You should NEVER lie.

 

Many countries DO Fluoridate, the US about half, Brazil, Australia, NZ etc.. Many countries don’t because they don’t drink the tap water. Countries like France drink 10 times as much bottled water as we do. I was in Spain recently and the salt we bought was Fluoridated because of this. I repeat, NO, NONE, NOT […]

William, I sadly do not have the time to do all the research for you. You will have to do this yourself. I cannot make you read beyond the media sponsored by the state that promulgates these things upon us, but I would hope you would like to educate yourself as to the full picture. Your post is just a tirade of unsubstantiated opinion and I suggest you do some deeper research before you come on in such an abusive tone.

What is Direct Democracy Ireland? Direct Democracy Ireland is a new political service whose aim is to restore the provisions of direct democracy to the people of Ireland, and by doing so: To provide the people of Ireland an alternative to the current model of governance which will ensure that election promises are kept and […]

 

Fracking does not destroy large swathes of land , the drill comes on the back of a truck and the pump house which serves several wells is the size of a 3 bedroom house. The EPA [USA] has not found one example of wells or groundwater being contaminated by fracking. On the reality side of things Methane has been present in wells and near surface water for thousands of years as it seeps naturally towards the surface,the Oracle at Delphi is an example, look it up.
Where is the evidence for the ‘die off in species’ ? I am with Mr. Grogan on this, if you wish to be taken seriously as a political party then you must not use gossip and hearsay when discussing such matters.

Fracking does not destroy large swathes of land , the drill comes on the back of a truck and the pump house which serves several wells is the size of a 3 bedroom house. The EPA [USA] has not found one example of wells or groundwater being contaminated by fracking. On the reality side of […]

I would not use the US EPA as a source. This is the same EPA that allows GMO to go unlablled and the uncontrolled use of pestticides and fungicides that has wiped out the bee population. Bodies like the EPA and the FDA in the US are dominated by political appointees of the corporate lobbyists that profit from the industries that produce these products

I would not use the US EPA as a source. This is the same EPA that allows GMO to go unlablled and the uncontrolled use of pestticides and fungicides that has wiped out the bee population. Bodies like the EPA and the FDA in the US are dominated by political appointees of the corporate lobbyists […]

Standard conspiracy theory nonsense. Any entity or organisation, no matter how prestigious or expert, that shows you are wrong is dismissed as infiltrated or in the pocket of someone you don’t like.

Standard conspiracy theory nonsense. Any entity or organisation, no matter how prestigious or expert, that shows you are wrong is dismissed as infiltrated or in the pocket of someone you don’t like.

Sorry William but you just invalidated any argument you may have had by using the media catch all catch phrase ‘conspiracy theory’. It is a meaningless phrase designed for media in the 1960′s by the FBI to try to sideline or ridiculeanyone who voice the opinion of the vast majority of the American people who did not believe the FBI version of events at the shooting of Kennedy in 1963. Seems it worked for many.

So there you have it, we have been brainwashed by the FBI. This would be hilarious but for the fact that this DDI wants to run the country.

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Nuclear Power for Ireland ?

http://www.thejournal.ie/do-you-think-the-ban-on-nuclear-power-should-be-lifted-1462248-May2014/

Lots of ecoloon comments from the unwashed and uniformed and just towards the end a lady brings up the subject of using waste for fuel which is hardly ever done in Ireland due to greenie interference. 60% of the journal readers are in favour of nuclear power and it would be interesting to see a wider survey done.

Josephine Griffin posed the question”We cannot even get rid of our ordinary everyday rubbish. You scientific types might be able to come up with a plan for that, rather than listening to some spiel out of vested interests funded by the capitalists.”

“Waste can be turned into fuels and chemicals using pyrolysis or just burnt off by incineration with heat recovery. Chemistry is a really useful science unlike the climate change farce.”

“Here is an example of what I mean. It’s an Irish man using a DIY method to make kerosene from plastic. I supervised the running of a much larger plant using all types of wastes to generate heat and the possibilities are there to be seen. Its just a 3 minute video and worth watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqGW4_m_zWM

Antarctic Ice

The journal.ie carries a scare story on some supposed melting of the Antarctic Ice which bears no resemblance to the observed reality. How soon people have forgotten the Ship of fools episode which involved some other ecoloons

“Just a few short months ago we had the ‘ ship of fools’ episode where one of these ‘ climate scientists’ got stuck in the Antarctic ice that they said have vanished thus risking lives and ships and the idiot Professor Chris Turney from the University of NSW even brought his own family along. Ecoloons.”

http://www.thejournal.ie/antarctic-ice-1462184-May2014/#comment-2451031

 

Boko Harem showing video of kidnapped girls

Obama is dithering again. The only real chance for these kids is to hand the job over to the Israeli Military. Then he should resign,he showed where his sympathies lie at the Benghazi episode.Obama has surrounded himself with so many red lines that he can’t move. The photo of Mrs. POTUS holding a note was the only US involvement that you will see.

Meanwhile The Guardian has laid responsibility for this act on the altar of AGW, no joke this is the latest crackpot theory from them.